M-residents Chantal van Rijt and Maud Gourdon
M-residents Chantal van Rijt and Maud Gourdon
M is convinced that a museum has many duties. Not only to conserve and exhibit art, but also to offer artists the space and opportunity to work on their projects – a residency, in other words. To pursue this goal, Chantal van Rijt and Maud Gourdon were offered the use of a large studio space for five months. They are jointly working on an installation. "When there are two of you, it’s like having a double brain."
Everything has a story to tell
Chantal: "I am Dutch, but I studied photography at the KASK in Ghent. I started working on installations and objects during the Master’s programme. And I am pursuing that path now."
Maud: "I am from France. I studied illustration and graphic design, and then enrolled in a new Master’s at the KASK. It was much broader than only drawing; we also experimented with sculpting techniques, working in a space, etc."
Chantal: "We met one another at the KASK, but our first real collaboration was a joint exhibition at M-idzomer 2019."
Maud: "They were pre-existing pieces, we didn’t make them together. But we did combine them to create a joint exhibition. And the M-residency followed from that."
Fictional language
Chantal: "Our research is very language-oriented – signs that carry meaning, you could say. And additionally, how that meaning can be transferred from one language to another. Maud’s work had focused on that for a while. Language can take on very diverse forms for us. The binary code that computers use, for example. For the exhibition at M-idzomer, I made prints of the patterns that woodworms make. They reminded me of punch cards or braille, which are also forms of language."
"I am currently working with the spruce bark beetle, which lives in the bark of trees. They make little passages that look a little bit like letters. I have three branches with tracks of the spruce bark beetle, and I have isolated eight different ‘letters’. I make impressions of them in silicone. These are the positives, and I use them to make moulds, the negatives. I sometimes do this several times, copy-paste, copy-paste… I use the copies to make collages, and I can then use the collages to make new moulds, and new copies. Almost like a copy machine."
Maud: "Language and text are my primary subjects – my way of thinking, even. I take words and I twist them, I invent wordplays… You can make small changes to create something completely new: I love that."
"When Chantal showed me the tracks of the spruce bark beetle, I immediately thought: what if we assumed that they are not random, but that they have meaning – a meaning that we cannot possibly translate? That was the germ of our project. I look for things like that in nature too. I work with dried melon peel, with seeds… If you are speculatively inclined, everything contains information. Everything has a story to tell."
"Chantal uses copy-paste to multiply and expand this language. You lose a little bit of meaning each time because the copy is never perfect. But you also acquire new information. In this project, I want to explore the opposite direction: concentrating language in the extreme, to the point that only information remains. Seed is a good example: it contains all the instructions needed to develop the entire plant."
Double brain
Chantal: "A lot of this project is new to me: the collaboration with Maud, working with language, the materials… But I do still see connections with photography. The positives and negatives that I make, they are like reprints of real life."
Maud: "Part of the project is very familiar to me. The fascination with language, for example. And also creating fiction. That is what I studied: writing texts, constructing a story, bringing texts and images together to tell that story in the best possible way… But I have of course also learned many new things. I had never worked with organic material, for example. A lot of problems! (laughs) And Chantal taught me how to make cyanotypes or blueprints, a more photographic procedure. That is why we are working together: to learn new skills and new approaches to our work. We are very much enjoying it. It is like having a double brain, and it makes things go much faster. And sometimes much slower. (laughs)"
Chantal: "We talk constantly about what we are working on. We share our research. This will probably lead to more collaborative works in the future."
Maud: "I don’t care to whom the work is attributed. Even if I make something by myself without any contribution from Chantal, it is still a collaboration because of our discussions and the common direction that we have chosen. You will of course be able to tell that one piece is more Chantal and another is more Maud. We are not merging. But we do react to each other."
Refreshing
Chantal: "This residency is a unique opportunity. We have a large and beautiful studio, we have received a budget… It gives us the mental space to experiment."
"Here at Cas-co (a former industrial building, now partitioned into workspaces for artists. M has its own studio here, ed.) there are also people who work in other disciplines and we can ask them for advice. And we have access to infrastructure that we would otherwise never be able to use."
"It is also important that people from M sometimes visit. And we receive studio visits from curators. They come to look at and comment on our work. It is always interesting to get feedback from people who know what they’re talking about. And it enables us to develop our network."
Maud: "What I like so much about this residency is that we are given the opportunity to take risks. There is also space for experimentation during your studies, but afterwards it becomes a smaller part of your practice. You have to make things to earn money, and you focus more on the end result. But thanks to this M-residency – the budget, the studio, the support – I now have the opportunity to try things out. I can finally let my undeveloped ideas flourish."